Creator Martin Gero talks about the possible spin-off and ending of Jane Doe’s fate – Deadline

Warning: This interview contains spoilers for tonight’s series finale (Season 5 Ep. 11, “Iunne Ennui”) of NBC / Warner Bros. TV’s Blind point.

After the great FBI villain Madeline Burke (Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio) was poisoned in episode 9 in front of Tasha Zapata (Audrey Esparza), the Blind point the gang was left with another hanger: Ivy (Julee Cerda), Madeline’s henchman, who left a bomb canister somewhere in New York City. The pump if activated can eliminate millions. Kurt (Sullivan Stapleton) convinces newly installed FBI chief Arla (Tracie Thoms) that his team is the best at fighting Ivy.

But Jane (Jaimie Alexander), having survived one of the memories that the zip bombs erased, begins to have hallucinations, visions that could finally kill her. However, somewhere in Jane’s memory is the location of Ivy’s bomb. She knows it, she just needs to look it up. She learns from FBI therapist Robert Benton in a vision: “If you want to participate in your present, you must become involved in your past … we have to stop demonizing our adversaries.” If we listen to them, perhaps we can learn from them. ” And so Jane goes down the memory path, getting advice from people like ex-lover Oscar (Francois Arnaud), Shepherd (the leader of the Sandstorm terror organization played by Michelle Hurd), Hank Crawford (HCI Global CEO played by David Morse) and even Madeline herself (Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio) among many others. Nas Kamal (Archie Panjabi), the former secret head of the NSA’s Zero Division, even appears (but not as a vision) to help Jane and the team.

Jane finally realizes that the bomb is in Times Square, and we are back at the place where it was found in a body bag in the first episode of Season 1, five years ago. When the team storms the area, Tasha finds Ivy and knocks her out.

“He had a detonator, I don’t think he activated it,” says Zapata.

Incorrect. Kurt and Jane find the bomb in a trash can, and it begins to drop. The plaza is clear. Patterson (Ashley Johnson) and Rich Dotcom (Ennis Esmer) advise on deactivation. With five seconds remaining, Kurt and Jane cut the green wires at the same time and kissed. The screen goes black and we see two different realities: one in which the team wins the day and undertakes a peaceful life together and another in which Jane is being compressed into a body bag (where we found her Five years agoHowever, the final shot is of Jane at the head of the table, celebrating with Kurt, Tasha (and their newborn baby), Rich and Patterson.

“Jane, are you alright?” Kurt asks. “Yes, I’m fine,” he replies in the final shot.

Here is our Blind point Exit interview with series creator Martin Gero:

First of all, there will be a Blind point spin-off and will it be with Zapata?

Martin Gero: I’d be super open to that. I mean, Audrey is part of … she’s a star, I think from the beginning, and if anyone wants to do a Zapata PI spin-off, they know where to find me. I would love to do it

Are you looking to develop a spin-off in the near future?

Gero Right now we have two things that are about to go into production. You know, I’m the executive producer of the Christina Kim reboot Kung Fu with the Berlanti team. That will air on The CW, and then Brendan Gall and I have created a new half hour of NBC (Connecting) that will begin airing in the fall.

So why was it time to finish? Blind point?

Gero Well, you know, these shows can’t last forever, especially a show like this, which tries to reinvent itself every year and just burns itself through the plot. You know, we really always had a five-season plan in the back of our minds, so when the time came to go to NBC and present our vision for the fifth season, we very confidently asked, ‘Could we wrap it up? up?’ You know, it’s very rare for a network television show to know it’s ending, and this is a show that was somewhat serialized and really required a bit of architecture to allow for its landing. So we were delighted that they agreed with us and gave us these 11 very exciting episodes for the show to land on.

Was this always the ending you had in mind, or was there an alternative one? I thought the end of season 5 (until episode 9) was heading towards Madeline’s disappearance, but instead it was about stopping Ivy and the bomb.

Gero No, I mean, for us, you know, Madeline – Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio is like a beast. She is such a dominant presence and power on the show and you know, it had been a bad two-season season. So we really needed to give it a proper ending, and we felt like we wanted the last episode to be more team focused, and we couldn’t do that if we were trying to defeat the main bad guy of the last two years. So taking down our big boss earlier allowed us to have the space to celebrate, you know, this weird kind of flashback Blind point in this final episode

When did you shoot last season?

Gero We started filming in July, and we finished just before Thanksgiving, and then we finished all post-production right in late January. So the show was completely over before any of the COVID closings occurred.

As exhilarating as Blind point it’s like a spy program, it echoes the politics that are happening now. Madeline is this cross between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. And then, as you watch the series, all James Comey and the current situation with the FBI come to mind. How did you break the story in response to the headlines?

Gero For us, the show always needed to feel like an escape, because reality is going crazy enough. But for us, the program has already been built on the assumption that the predominant force behind the government is corruption. And the point that Jane originally got these tattoos and infiltrated the FBI was to take down the corrupt branches of government. And so, dealing with corruption and dealing with people who are only interested in their own interests, as opposed to the country’s interests, is in the DNA of the program. So while we never treat it like the real world, I expressly think there are definitely echoes there.

So the series ends tonight with two endings: Jane imagining a happy life with her friends and Kurt, and ending in a kind of full circle where we originally found her: in a bag in Times Square, except this time, she’s dead.

Gero For us, there certainly is a clear quote, in quotes, as “author intent,” but part of the reason we did it this way was that we wanted the show to be emotionally satisfying, depending on what your emotional needs were in the moment you saw the show, and the amazing thing about that ending is that it really is this 50/50 Rorschach.

Like, you can see it with a group of people, and half of them are like ‘It’s crazy that you killed her in the end’, and the other half like, ‘Oh my gosh, I’m so glad I got it final happy in Colorado. “Both are right. Both are correct readings. You know, we writers have not chosen one way or the other, but I think part of the way we did it is that we want it to be the ending you want. to be.

And his return to the body bag in Times Square. Tell me about closing the circle.

Gero Well, you know, there is something beautiful. We made this graph at the opening of the episode where it starts with, you know, 100, and 100 turns to 001. For us, we really love the roundness of the narration, you know? Like, we liked that the beginning feels like the end, the end feels like the beginning. So, that image was always on our minds, that there probably would be a body bag in Times Square, but it’s not the last image. It’s the penultimate image, right? It’s kind of choosing your own adventure where the story ends. Does it end on the penultimate shot, or does it end on the last shot?

When it comes to shooting again in Times Square, have you thought about how you could have done it during the pandemic now with all the security protocols and extras?

Gero We couldn’t have done this episode right now. While there is much less foot traffic in Times Square and it would be a bit easier to clean up, it was only recently that the Governor of New York made a safe return to work for film production. So we are incredibly lucky to have filmed the show when we did it.

What has been the biggest challenge for you when creating this series?

Gero For a show to survive, at least a show like this, it really has to reinvent itself every season. The challenge is that you want to reinvent it enough so that the show doesn’t start to seem boring and repetitive, but you also don’t want to reinvent it excessively so that the show drives away its main fans who are there for something specific every week.

In finding that balance, I believe we have achieved it with varying degrees of success. You know, I think there are seasons when people felt, ‘Whoa, this is not the Blind point Be and love, ‘and then there are seasons where it’s like,’ Wow, this is even better than the original. ‘ So it’s always that kind of calibration. A show can’t feel like any medium, you know? What we were hoping to do with the show was that it always seemed like every season was a book from a series of novels that you really liked. However, I think the risk of that is, for all of us who have read a series of novels; You’re like, ‘I didn’t love that one, but I love the series.’ And so we hope to engage at least people from one season to the next, even though we’ve changed the tone of the show so dramatically from the first season.

Do you think you will ever reboot? the LA Complex?

Gero I mean, I tried a lot, man. I really did it. I will say that there is no bigger fan of The LA Complex that (CW Television Network President) Mark Pedowitz. You know, Mark Pedowitz has really tried. We have both tried. We put our heads together so many times to try and figure out how to do it, and I really thought we’d licked each other in the middle of last year, but alone, for whatever reason, we could never get over it, and unfortunately, you know, I think CW makes more sense for it to be his home, and I recently moved from Warner Bros. and now I’m on UTV. So for the next few years at least, I think it’s probably in some kind of permanent retention, but it’s a shame. We actually wrote a really fun reboot that I thought would have been really exciting.