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This Thursday was the debut of the new season of Without Patch (TVN), conversation space hosted by Santiago Pavlovic who had the Doctor as a guest Sebastian Ugarte (61), a figure that became familiar and credible to Chileans in the pandemic. The specialist revealed part of his past during the dictatorship of Augusto Pinochet in Chile and recounted the persecutions he experienced. “It was a tragedy and a shame for the country”, He said.
“It showed the worst of what we are capable of. Without a doubt we have a lot to walk forward, to be able to build encounter, respect in each one of us. Contrary to what some think, who see it as a time when Chile was proud of its being with this dictatorship, I think it was a shameHe explained.
The head of the Critical Patients Unit of the Indisa Clinic He recalled that in those times, close to the 70s, “I was a young man.” “Obviously I did not feel identified with a dictatorial regime (…) I collaborated in Human Rights and in the construction of Student Centers and Student Centers that were prohibited at that time, ”he said.
He recalled that together with fellow students from the Universidad de la Frontera, from where he graduated, they formed the first Federation of Students in Chile in that difficult time, an instance that he presided. “It was an epic moment of struggle to recover democracy … and of pain,” he acknowledged.
One of the crudest moments of the interview occurred when he recalled that a close man – without specifying names or persons responsible – was killed. “A friend got half of the head shot off. They were difficult times and it was complicated ”, he recalled evidently distressed. “But it was necessary to defend the right to think differently,” he added.
The chasing
One of Pavlovic’s questions was directed at how he experienced the politicization of medicine, at a time when there were accusations that doctors participated in the torture of detainees. “I can’t understand how they could get there,” he said.
“We educate ourselves to save lives. So, at what point does your mind tell you that the other who thinks differently from you is an adversary, an enemy who is no longer human? And you use all the science you learned to save lives, otherwise … cause pain, “he added.
Ugarte, who was already working in the public service, acknowledged that he experienced persecution by colleagues who were supporters of the regime. “There came a time when it became impossible to continue working and it was one problem after another. (They told me) ‘get out of here, we don’t want you here, “” she said.
For him, those episodes were “a real persecution.” And they also scratched his car, broke his windows and even blew his tires.
He also said that he later gave that car as part of payment to buy another. But to his surprise, the vehicle was found on fire. “They had set it on fire, burned the car. I don’t know, they are things that… I don’t have proofs, demonstrations ”. “I’d rather leave the past behind”, Hill.
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