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In a new chapter of the program De tú a tú on Channel 13, the journalist and former soccer player Carlos Caszely recounted some of the most difficult moments in his life.
In conversation with Martín Cárcamo, from his home in Concón, Caszely said that at the age of 9 he had his first contact with a professional ball.
He played in the neighborhood square. He was a soccer fanatic, but his parents’ studies came first.
Caszely remembers that when they punished him they sent him to read.
Their mother made their clothes and she was the one who gave the injections in the neighborhood. They called her “The neighborhood mom.” While his father accompanied him to the Monumental and took children who had nothing to eat to give them lunch at home.
Both had a social role that the footballer absorbed in his childhood.
The ghost of 1973
The most complex year in modern Chilean history, it was also a defining moment in Carlos’s life.
In addition to getting married, he scored one of the best goals of his career against the Ecuadorian Emelec.
Carlos Caszely was 20 years old when the Military Coup came and an obvious political position.
“I have always defined myself as an athlete with a social conscience. Give that the last name you want, “he said on the program.
Before being a journalist, you are a person. Before a footballer you are a person. I have always cared more about the person than the political party, because for me they are employment agencies, “he added.
The cursed memory of Caszely
At one point in the conversation, Cárcamo asks him what happened to his mother the day she disappeared.
Caszely thinks it was because he was a supporter of Salvador Allende.
What happened that day? “I was living in Spain. My parents lived in El Llano, and a photographer of these drawer is used, but he never took a photo “, he began counting.
“My father went to talk to this man, he kept his camera in the house, when it rained they invited him to eat, to have a coffee. And after they took my detained mother, this rooster did not appear again, “he added.
Then he continued: “So we thought it was a toad.”
Caszely remembers that they were not active in any political party and the story continues.
“One day, when my father came home, there was the gate and the open door and my mother’s apron in the front yard. Call my sister, she goes to the bakery and they started looking for her … “
He says that they began to find out about all the hospitals and he was not there. “Morgue, they went to the morgue to ask. Everything was chaos, not only in the family but in the neighborhood, because everyone knew that he was not there ”, he said.
According to the footballer, “guy 7 in the afternoon, they call by phone: ‘Don René, there is a lady here named Olga Garrido, she is dumped in a peladero in Vicuña Mackenna'”.
There was Caszely’s mother “with a broken, bloody jaw.”
While reliving the story, Carlos breaks down because it is something very difficult to tell.
“They take her to the hospital and find injuries. Is strong…”
His return to Chile
Although he returns happy from Spain, the family gathering is tinged with a strange atmosphere.
“My weird mom, my weird dad, my weird sister, my weird brother-in-law.” They didn’t want to tell him when they saw him and waited to get home.
There, his mother called him so she could tell him. She told him that she was detained, but he did not believe her at first.
In her story, she was put into a white truck, grabbed, put on a hood, and taken away. She does not know where they took her, they beat her and asked her about her son and the dollars that he supposedly sent for the resistance.
A man who claimed to be a friend of Carlos helped her escape.
For Caszely it is complex to relive those passages of his memory, especially when his mother showed him the cigarette burns on his chest.
“So you say, ‘why are human beings so bad?’ An old woman who didn’t hurt anyone! He had political thoughts like me, like you, like anyone, “he lamented.
“We do not have weapons in the house, we do not know terrorists. Now I want to meet one to tell me why. I do not get it. I cannot understand the harm done to human beings, ”he added.
He says that his head hurts every time he remembers that part of his story, but that a psychologist told him that to vent he had to tell it.
His encounters with Pinochet
Barely two months after the incident in which his mother was tortured, the first meeting with the dictator occurred.
Caszely went to Germany with the National Soccer Team and did not shake his hand.
“A journalist, to ingratiate himself with the dictatorship, wrote it. If he didn’t write it, no one would have known. Well, the next day that rooster was thrown out because that’s where my slight was known, ”says Carlos.
After the episode, Caszely says that they met again for the Copa América and that is where the remembered anecdote of the tie occurred.
The footballer asked his wife how to dress, and she recommended a red tie for the suit he was going to wear.
At the meeting, Pinochet called him and told him that he was going to cut his red tie. Caszely replied that he was fine, that at his house he had more red ties, to which the dictator asks him if he knows that he can have all the red ties in his house cut.
It was when the footballer told him: “The doors of my house are open to everyone, you can go and cut all my red ties, but my heart is still red.”
Martín asked him if it ever crossed his mind to face Pinochet about what happened to his mother.
Carlos didn’t and he doesn’t know why.
He does not know if he regrets it because it is the first time that he has been asked. “I don’t know, it didn’t cross my mind.”
Watch the chapter
Next, the full episode of the program De tú a tú with Martín Cárcamo and Carlos Caszely:
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