Greater New York Black Lives Matter President Hawk Newsome joined “The Story” on Wednesday to discuss the direction of the movement in the wake of George Floyd’s death in police custody and subsequent protests across the country, many of which have caused destruction and violence.
“You … have said that violence is sometimes necessary in these situations,” presenter Martha MacCallum told Newsome. “What exactly do you hope to achieve through violence?”
“Wow, it’s interesting that you ask that question like this,” Newsome replied, “because this country is based on violence. What was the American Revolution, what is our diplomacy around the world?
“We enter and exploit countries and replace their leaders with leaders we like. Therefore, any American who accuses us of being violent is extremely hypocritical.”
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MacCallum clarified that his question was based on comments he had heard from Newsome in various interviews.
“I said,” Newsome said to the host, “if this country doesn’t give us what we want, then we will burn this system down and replace it. Okay? And it could be speaking … figuratively. It could be literally speaking, it’s a matter. of interpretation.
“Let’s look at the history of the 1960s, when blacks mutinied,” he continued. “We had the biggest growth in wealth, on property. Think of the past few weeks since we started protesting. Eight police officers have been fired across the country.”
“I do not condone or condemn the riots,” added Newsome. “But I’m only telling you what I observed.”
Later in the interview, Newsome insisted that the Black Lives Matter movement tries to “save lives” and that its supporters should be “applauded” for defending the Second Amendment.
“No one talks about ambushing the police. We are talking about protecting lives,” he said. “There is nothing more American than that. We talk about raising and defending the Second Amendment, but it seems to be the hypocrisy of the United States that when blacks start talking about arming and defending themselves, [that] talking is “violent”. But when the whites take the assault rifles and go to the capitals of our nation’s states, everything is fine. “
The interview turned around after MacCallum read a quote from Martin Luther King Jr. and asked Newsome if he agreed.
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“Let us be dissatisfied,” King said at the 1967 Southern Christian Leadership Conference convention, “until that day when no one yells” White power! “When no one screams” Black power! “But everyone will speak of God. Power and human power.”
“I love the Lord and my Lord and savior,” Newsome replied to MacCallum’s message. “Jesus Christ is the most famous black radical revolutionary in history. And he was treated like Dr. King. He was arrested on occasion and he was also crucified or killed. This is what happens to black activists. The government kills us.”
In concluding the interview, Newsome told MacCallum: “I just want black liberation and sovereignty, by whatever means necessary.”