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In the third installment of his interview, former President Jacob Zuma told his son Duduzane Zuma that the state and the courts allegedly intentionally created debts over the years for him to fight his legal defense.
Although social media users tried to say that Zuma was now happier and had an easier life after his resignation, it seems that this was not the case with the former president, who told his son that his relationship with the comrades. It has not been the same.
The former president had continued to attend ANC national executive committee (NEC) meetings, but had been “very cautious” about his actions during these meetings.
“I did not deliberately participate in the discussions and debates, in part because I did not want people to say that I was defending my legacy or that I am trying to rule from the grave.
“I have allowed people to move, but to be there to make sure that I am aware of what is happening in the organization, [and] where necessary, to express my views.
“I thought it was important for me to give them room to discuss, not because I was not going to debate the issues, but to allow ANC members to see if there is something unpleasant or wrong,” said Zuma.
In addition to severed relationships with comrades, there were forces that were working hard to make his life a misery, with endless court cases that he has been fighting for due to his financial struggles.
“As you know, I was never given the opportunity because, as I moved, the cases have accumulated, as well as the difficulties. Debts were created for me, so I shouldn’t even have the ability to handle cases, “said Zuma.
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While there were charges against him of taking money out of the country in suitcases, Zuma said he never made money during his time in office.
“My job at ANC was to work honestly, not to take or steal money. No one can point to a penny I stole. ”
To add to his struggles, he said, President Cyril Ramaphosa had refused to allow the government to continue funding his court cases, and the money he had to pay back that the state spent on his improvements to the Nkandla farm had also drained Zuma financially. .
Zuma accused Ramaphosa of leaving him dry after Mbeki had signed an agreement for the government to finance his court cases on the presumption of his innocence. Zuma would only be responsible for the costs if the verdict did not achieve its goal.
“The new leadership looked at things differently. In the cases it did have, the government in the past had an agreement that if you are charged while you are in government, the case processes would be paid for by the government. Only then, if you lose the case, will you reimburse the government. If you don’t lose it, you don’t refund.
“I even had an agreement with [then] President Mbeki, who signed that would be the case, but the new president did not want to associate with him, so it was he who said, “Let it dry.”
As for Nkandla, he said: “There was a very ingenious situation, since I did nothing with anything in our house, which was the family’s decision that we should extend our house. But deliberately, the courts of this land were made to give me a debt of R8 million [the bill for the repayment calculated on the costs of ‘non-security-related upgrades’] – about which I did nothing, so unfair ”, lamented Zuma.
“Although it was the state security department that decided to add security measures, some said that I benefited indirectly from my family. Former presidents, where they stay, have security features in place [there] by the government None has been accused of indirectly benefiting from the family.
“It is just me, so debts can be created, either by a government apparatus or by comrades or ex-comrades. Instead of enjoying freedom and participating, people have not been sleeping planning how to deal with me,” he claimed. Zuma.
Watch the full video below in part 3 of Zooming with Zumas:
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